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Why on earth do Catholics believe *that*???
this isn't a posed question... 
7th-Mar-2007 03:18 pm
planets stolen from unlegal
this I'm actually wondering!

anybody happen to know how the church feels about adopting embros? I know IVF is out, but what about the embryos that already exist and would otherwise be destroyed or experimented on?

it seems for the most part, Natural Law and Church Law match up on most of these issues.. but this is something entirely different. embryos are illicitly ceated, then what? they already exist. would it not be ok to have one implanted into yourself?
7th-Mar-2007 10:39 pm (UTC)
I don't have any further information on the issue, but in the bioethics lecture I went to last year (taken by an Oblate (OMI) priest), I asked that same question.

He said, "no". It's not okay, you can't adopt embryos licitly. We didn't have time to discuss it in depth, but that might be a starting point for further research. The priest in question specialised in bioethics at seminary, so knew quite a bit about his subject.

It's a difficult answer for me to accept, really.
8th-Mar-2007 01:10 am (UTC)
I agree. Then what, we let them die? I'm confused as well.
8th-Mar-2007 01:22 am (UTC)
I really don't know what the 'solution' is supposed to be. I'm not sure at all... I was really disappointed that we didn't have more time to delve into the issues more deeply, because I'd really like to understand more about how the Church feels we should approach this problem.
8th-Mar-2007 01:15 am (UTC)
me too. I mean, it's not as simple as "don't make any more" because even if no more embryos were ever created (artifically) from today forward, that still doesn't address what to do with the ones that already exist. keep them frozen forever?
8th-Mar-2007 01:23 am (UTC)
I honestly don't know what the Church sees as an appropriate solution. It seems hard to believe that the Church would put this one into the "too hard" basket - like, there has to be a morally better choice, even if it's a situation where there's no "right" choice.
8th-Mar-2007 03:13 am (UTC)
One can either look at it as saving a life (which it is, in a sense, since unused embryos are generally either "destroyed" or used for research) or benefiting from an act that's illicit. It's a very hard call.

15th-Sep-2008 03:16 am (UTC)
Wait for artificial wombs?
8th-Mar-2007 01:54 am (UTC)
As far as I know, this is called embryo adoption. I don't know if there is much legally about it yet, let alone morally.
I do think it's really sad that there are so many children, frozen.
9th-Mar-2007 02:10 pm (UTC)
I've met a woman who's done it, but I didn't get to hear the legal end of her story. I'd heard about it, but it was weird to see someone who'd actually done it. she was a single woman, and was hanging out at a Catholic Homeschoolers' meeting with her kids. I don't think I met the kids, though.. they were just running around with the other kids.
19th-Apr-2007 02:11 am (UTC)
I have a whole comic in my mind about a small army who go around after the fall of civilization and find IVF clinics and rescue the embryos. Then they find a clinic where people are messing with the embyos to create the ubermensch. This of course does not answer your question.
15th-Sep-2008 12:00 am (UTC)
ahaha...sorry, I just had to laugh. ;)
20th-Nov-2007 05:39 pm (UTC)
I think that the manin problem with that idea is most doctors would not implant just ONE embryo. The likelyhood of a successful pregnancy from one empbryo would be extremely small. In most IVF the implant several, already fertalized embryos, so two problems occur:

One partner (father) is removed from the process of creating a life. Catholism requires that both partners be involved in conception.

Also, with more than one embryo, you're still going to end up killing children.
15th-Sep-2008 12:02 am (UTC)
But it's common that all embryos survive, too. You know those families that end up with sextuplets? They're nearly always the result of "artificial" embryonic "implants" (wow, that sounds strange).
15th-Sep-2008 04:51 am (UTC)
Wow, this is an old thread.

And actually all the embryo's surviving isn't common. John and Kate's sextuplets are I believe only the third set of sextuples in the United States in which all children survived infancy.

And they were conceived with fertility drugs, not IVF.
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