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Why on earth do Catholics believe *that*???
and since I'm promoting lately, I may as well pose a question... 
5th-Mar-2007 09:23 pm
schneckerock
this came up in one of the recent catholicism discussions, but was never really addressed.

what forms of affection are allowed, and what not allowed, during the abstaining period of NFP? I'm thinking a lot of people have the idea that anything goes, as long as it isn't intercourse (that could get you pregnant), and doesn't involve something artificial...
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6th-Mar-2007 11:46 am (UTC)
I guess it depends a lot on whether you see what you're doing during the abstaining period as an act/end in itself; or if you see it as part of a longer buildup until the fertile phase has passed.

To my mind, there's a difference, anyway.
6th-Mar-2007 03:52 pm (UTC)
or if you see it as part of a longer buildup until the fertile phase has passed.

this one seems rather.. difficult. I mean, normally when you're building up form something, it's for an act that's what, 15 minutes away? maybe 45 at the most? I can't imagine trying to build up for something that's still days away without getting plain old frustrated. but that might be more of a practical answer than a moral one :P
6th-Mar-2007 11:53 pm (UTC)
I guess it's a matter of mindset, though there are obviously practicalities involved. But we do spend that time actively looking forward to "rabbit season" (as we call my luteal phase! *grin*), so when we're affectionate during a time where we're abstaining, we are looking forward to the time when we can join together again in that particular physical sense. So there's never really a sense of 'completion' during that time, if that makes sense to you. I don't mean 'completion' in the sense of physical satisfaction, I just mean that in our minds, it's definitely a leadup to something more, which we anticipate eagerly.
7th-Mar-2007 04:11 pm (UTC)
just wait til you're breastfeeding ;) sometimes you get long periods of not-as-fertile quality fluid that last a few weeks with no end in sight, only to just stop with no ovulation taking place! I had six anovulatory cycles before conceiving this last one (incidentally, 1 year was our cutoff for stopping NFP, and I ovulated at 12.5 months, so the timing worked out...) and all 6 'cycles' had some sort of fluid appear between periods that we had to abstain through "just in case" but that had no connect at all to the next period (sometimes bleeding showed up like 2 days after the fluid stopped.. once it was a month later!)

so yeah.. with that in mind, it's hard to look forward to the end of it when you have no clue when the end will be. we had to take it one day at a time.
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